A question
Aug. 27th, 2004 10:42 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
emmagrant01What's the big deal about GMail? I keep seeing people on my f-list asking for and offering invites, and I have no idea why. When I first heard about the premise, and that Google would "read" the content of emails you send and receive to target advertising to you, etc., I thought, WTF? Why would anyone want to do that?
Clearly people did want to do it, since it quickly became the "it" new email address to have. I'm still skeptical, myself. I'll offer some interesting links, though. Some of these express views that are a bit paranoid, but are still intriguing:
GMail is too creepy
"If Google builds a database of keywords associated with email addresses, the potential for abuse is staggering. Google could grow a database that spits out the email addresses of those who used those keywords. How about words such as "box cutters" in the same email as "airline schedules"? Can you think of anyone who might be interested in obtaining a list of email addresses for that particular combination? Or how about "mp3" with "download"? Since the RIAA has sent subpoenas to Internet service providers and universities in an effort to identify copyright abusers, why should we expect Gmail to be off-limits?"
Things Google knows about you
"If you use a GMail account:
• Who you send emails to
• Who sends emails to you
• The contents of those emails
• The contents of all emails received from any mailing lists of which you are a member, even if they are private mailing lists."
Privacy subtleties of GMail
"Even so, people have a reaction to a 3rd party computer doing scans like this. If you were offered a service that saved you money by having your paper mail opened by robots for scanning, which then inserted new junk mail in your box based on what it found, you might get a bit creeped out. Go further and consider a service that gave you free phone calls if it could have speech-recognizing computers listen in and barge in with product offers related to your conversation? It's easy to imagine an unpleasant situation where you get invited to a gay wedding in Vancouver, and find with it in your mailbox brochures for gifts, Vancouver hotels and a free copy of Out magazine. People have extended that fear into the e-mail realm."
Clearly people did want to do it, since it quickly became the "it" new email address to have. I'm still skeptical, myself. I'll offer some interesting links, though. Some of these express views that are a bit paranoid, but are still intriguing:
GMail is too creepy
"If Google builds a database of keywords associated with email addresses, the potential for abuse is staggering. Google could grow a database that spits out the email addresses of those who used those keywords. How about words such as "box cutters" in the same email as "airline schedules"? Can you think of anyone who might be interested in obtaining a list of email addresses for that particular combination? Or how about "mp3" with "download"? Since the RIAA has sent subpoenas to Internet service providers and universities in an effort to identify copyright abusers, why should we expect Gmail to be off-limits?"
Things Google knows about you
"If you use a GMail account:
• Who you send emails to
• Who sends emails to you
• The contents of those emails
• The contents of all emails received from any mailing lists of which you are a member, even if they are private mailing lists."
Privacy subtleties of GMail
"Even so, people have a reaction to a 3rd party computer doing scans like this. If you were offered a service that saved you money by having your paper mail opened by robots for scanning, which then inserted new junk mail in your box based on what it found, you might get a bit creeped out. Go further and consider a service that gave you free phone calls if it could have speech-recognizing computers listen in and barge in with product offers related to your conversation? It's easy to imagine an unpleasant situation where you get invited to a gay wedding in Vancouver, and find with it in your mailbox brochures for gifts, Vancouver hotels and a free copy of Out magazine. People have extended that fear into the e-mail realm."
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Date: 2004-08-27 09:54 am (UTC)Firstly, the third analogy is totally incorrect, Gmail has been by FAR the most Spam-free e-mail I've ever used.
As far as collecting information on the keywords used, I'm far more worried about carnivore, the government's technology to do just that on the entire bloody web, which has been out for yearsand can be used without judicial oversight than I am of the really asinine ads that I get through gmail. They're utterly robotic... they keep offering me Kung Fu movies as related to slash fanfic. Plus, there is NO indication that google is storing that information specifically on gmail customers.
They DO store information on every web-search that is done already for page-ranking purposes, and can track that to your computer IF you allow them to save a cookie. Any e-mail provider is going to know the contents of your messages, and who you send and recieve e-mail from... think about it; the mail is *on their server*. Gmail doesn't really look at it any more than anyone else does, they just use the information differently.
More importantly, I didn't have to enter *ANY* personal information when I signed up for my gmail account... just my desired e-mail address and my name, which was optional. Yahoo required my city, state, zip, real name, and optionally address and phone number as well as age, occupation, and other data so that they could send ads to me. I feel a whole heck of a lot safer with a gmail robot reading the contents of my messages than I do with a person at yahoo knowing my biographical data. My humble opinion, of course.
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Date: 2004-08-27 09:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-08-28 07:09 pm (UTC)