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In a private conversation about Brit-picking, a friend of mine told me that she'd seen the word "gotten" in her (American) copy of HPSS. I have the PDFs of the US versions of all the books, so I thought I'd do a search on "gotten" and see what I found.
It turns out that there are 20 occurrences of the word "gotten" in SS, two of them in dialogue (one said by Ron and one by Hermione). I also have the British editions of the books, and in them each of these is "got". So this was clearly a change made by the American editors, possibly because it made the text "sound right" to American readers.
I extracted all of the examples in SS and they are posted below. I included chapter numbers but not page numbers, since those vary so much.
20 occurrences in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone:
The number of occurrences was lower in the other books, but doesn't really seem to follow a pattern:
COS: 0 occurrences
POA: 9 occurrences (3 in dialogue)
GOF: 11 occurrences (3 in dialogue)
OOTP: 0 occurrences
HBP: 1 occurrence
Interesting. :-)
ETA: Thanks to
dorrie6 for this interesting link: American Pie: American/British English Translation, and to
atdelphi for the link to this list of all the differences between PS (UK) and SS(US), including many things I didn't know were different. :-P
It turns out that there are 20 occurrences of the word "gotten" in SS, two of them in dialogue (one said by Ron and one by Hermione). I also have the British editions of the books, and in them each of these is "got". So this was clearly a change made by the American editors, possibly because it made the text "sound right" to American readers.
I extracted all of the examples in SS and they are posted below. I included chapter numbers but not page numbers, since those vary so much.
20 occurrences in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone:
It looked as though Dudley had gotten the new computer he wanted, not to mention the second television and the racing bike. [Ch 2]
The only thing Harry liked about his own appearance was a very thin scar on his forehead that was shaped like a bolt of lightning. He had had it as long as he could remember, and the first question he could ever remember asking his Aunt Petunia was how he had gotten it. [Ch 2]
Next morning, however, he had gotten up to find his hair exactly as it had been before Aunt Petunia had sheared it off. [Ch 2]
On the other hand, he'd gotten into terrible trouble for being found on the roof of the school kitchens. [Ch 2]
Harry recognized him at once from the card he'd gotten out of the Chocolate Frog on the train. [Ch 7]
Albus Dumbledore had gotten to his feet. He was beaming at the students, his arms opened wide, as if nothing could have pleased him more than to see them all there. [Ch 7]
The pain had gone as quickly as it had come. Harder to shake off was the feeling Harry had gotten from the teacher's look -- a feeling that he didn't like Harry at all. [Ch 7]
Just then, the mail arrived. Harry had gotten used to this by now, but it had given him a bit of a shock on the first morning, when about a hundred owls had suddenly streamed into the Great Hall during breakfast, circling the tables until they saw their owners, and dropping letters and packages onto their laps. [Ch 8]
At the start-of-term banquet, Harry had gotten the idea that Professor Snape disliked him. By the end of the first Potions lesson, he knew he'd been wrong. [Ch 8]
At breakfast on Thursday she bored them all stupid with flying tips she'd gotten out of a library book called Quidditch Through the Ages. [Ch 9]
"We should have gotten more than ten points," Ron grumbled. [Ch 10]
He didn't know how he'd have gotten through all his homework without her, what with all the last-minute Quidditch practice Wood was making them do. [Ch 11]
"I've heard of those," he said in a hushed voice, dropping the box of Every Flavor Beans he'd gotten from Hermione. "If that's what I think it is -- they're really rare, and really valuable." [Ch 12]
Percy Weasley stuck his head through the door, looking disapproving. He had clearly gotten halfway through unwrapping his presents as he, too, carried a lumpy sweater over his arm, which Fred seized. [Ch 12]
Then, during one particularly wet and muddy practice session, Wood gave the team a bit of bad news. He'd just gotten very angry with the Weasleys, who kept dive-bombing each other and pretending to fall off their brooms. [Ch 13]
Hermione jumped to her feet. She hadn't looked so excited since they'd gotten back the marks for their very first piece of homework. [Ch 13]
Little did Harry know that Ron and Hermione had been secretly practicing the Leg-Locker Curse. They'd gotten the idea from Malfoy using it on Neville, and were ready to use it on Snape if he showed any sign of wanting to hurt Harry. [Ch 13]
"What am I studying for? Are you crazy? You realize we need to pass these exams to get into the second year? They're very important, I should have started studying a month ago, I don't know what's gotten into me...." [Ch 14]
Filch was already there -- and so was Malfoy. Harry had also forgotten that Malfoy had gotten a detention, too. [Ch 15]
It winked and put the Stone back in its pocket -- and as it did so, Harry felt something heavy drop into his real pocket. Somehow -- incredibly -- he'd gotten the Stone. [Ch 17]
The number of occurrences was lower in the other books, but doesn't really seem to follow a pattern:
COS: 0 occurrences
POA: 9 occurrences (3 in dialogue)
GOF: 11 occurrences (3 in dialogue)
OOTP: 0 occurrences
HBP: 1 occurrence
Interesting. :-)
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Date: 2007-03-28 07:12 am (UTC)You wouldn't believe what sort of crappy sentences are technically permitted, actually. I was a copy editor for a faculty publication at my last university and also an English/paper-writing tutor, and that was always difficult - when something isn't technically wrong, but just sounds like crap! :P
My six years of German were broken up into two groups of three (grades 7-9 and then three years in university), so it wasn't too bad. Actually, I take it back - the second year of German in university was brutal. It was all grammar, all year. The third year is all spoken/comprehension, with occasional grammar review, so that was fine, but the second year? Death! :P It's easier than French, though! I've only taken a bit of it (three years in school again, and one year in university), and it all made sense where there were German equivalents - but French has more cases and tenses! I was lost! :P
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Date: 2007-03-28 07:18 am (UTC)no wonder my french comprehension in high school was on the low!
gah!
japanese grammar apparently is easy, but all that memorization for their letters............. guh! same with chinese!
and i wanted to learn Welsh after watching BIG BROTHER 7 UK... then i found out this was a city name of theirs and a perfectly 'legal' word:
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
and i said, fuck that!
Was studiert Sie?
(gawd, i bet i fucked that up)
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Date: 2007-03-28 07:26 am (UTC)I've never attempted anything Asian at all! In addition to my 6 years of German and 4 years of French, I have also taken 3 years of Latin (forgotten almost all of it by now, though!) and a year of Italian. And a crash course in Arabic, but I've forgotten most of that now, too. (It was seven years ago!!)
Welsh? Yeah, okay, that word is RIDICULOUS! Even German can't compete, unless you're doing really high numbers! :P
Was habe ich studieren? Ich habe ein Sommer "Faust" gelesen, auf deutsch. Es war sehr, sehr schwer, und ich hatte auch ein Wortbuch in meinem Haende. Dass war furchtbar! Wie war dass fuer dich? (Es tut mir Leid, ob "du" ist nicht gut! Ich mag "Sie" nicht! :P)
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Date: 2007-03-29 01:15 am (UTC)Ich habe einen Freund, mit dem ich über den Computer (VOIP) spreche. Aber er will seine Engländer üben!! So werde ich fragen 'wie geht es dir?' oder 'wie gehts' und er wird antworten: "es geht mir gut", in Englisch!!! Und er sagt wörtlich... "it goes well for me"....
*smacks forehead* Oh, je! Ach!! Du hilfst mir nicht!!!!!
(as you can see, i've a long way to go)
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Date: 2007-03-29 03:13 am (UTC)And I love that, how language classes rarely teach you proper conversational skills. I got a decent mark in Intro French in university, but I can still barely, barely scrape it together to form a question, of all simple things!
PS: You seem pretty great, so I'm friending. :) Hope that's okay!
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Date: 2007-03-29 05:17 am (UTC)most certainly!
friending back!