This is kinda funny, actually
Jul. 25th, 2006 08:13 pmYou know what makes me go 0_o about all of this slash-bashing (on a post that is now locked, apparently *coughs*)?
We're arguing about fictional characters. Who never existed. Who aren't, you know, real people. Who gives a fuck what someone who does not exist does or doesn't do in bed? My fantasies are my fantasies, and I don't have to justify them to anyone.
That said, people have the right to have opinions different than mine, and even, lo, to express them on their journals. But to bitch about how slash fic is OOC?
To quote Hermione, "Oh, well spotted!" Slap me with a fish and call me Elmo, because I would never have realized how horribly OOC my characters are without someone pointing that little detail out. You mean, they don't actually blow each other in the broom shed? My god, what have we done??? *eye roll*
Of course it's fucking OOC. I made Harry and Draco GAY, for fuck's sake. I have actually read the books, and I did indeed note the distinct lack of buttsex in them. I recognize that the characters are not now, and probably never will be, gay in canon. Or even bisexual. And do I give a shit? That would be a no, because I'm not in fandom to write stories that "flesh out canon". People can do that if they want, and more power to them, but me? I'm here for the slash, basically. I'm all about Teh Gay, as are most of the people reading this, I imagine.
And I really don't care what other people think, ya know? I'm a slasher. I don't freak out when my ship is sunk, or when one of my OTP is killed. I live in my own little slashy fandom world, and I like it that way. It's nicer here. And we have better icons. So there.
Note: You know, I've written quite a lot of het, so this shouldn't be interpreted as a het vs. slash thing at all. It's about me boggling at someone throwing what they think is an insult at the whole slash genre -- when its OOCness is something I actually embrace. Go figure. :-P
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son_of_darkness even made a comic about it, hee!
We're arguing about fictional characters. Who never existed. Who aren't, you know, real people. Who gives a fuck what someone who does not exist does or doesn't do in bed? My fantasies are my fantasies, and I don't have to justify them to anyone.
That said, people have the right to have opinions different than mine, and even, lo, to express them on their journals. But to bitch about how slash fic is OOC?
To quote Hermione, "Oh, well spotted!" Slap me with a fish and call me Elmo, because I would never have realized how horribly OOC my characters are without someone pointing that little detail out. You mean, they don't actually blow each other in the broom shed? My god, what have we done??? *eye roll*
Of course it's fucking OOC. I made Harry and Draco GAY, for fuck's sake. I have actually read the books, and I did indeed note the distinct lack of buttsex in them. I recognize that the characters are not now, and probably never will be, gay in canon. Or even bisexual. And do I give a shit? That would be a no, because I'm not in fandom to write stories that "flesh out canon". People can do that if they want, and more power to them, but me? I'm here for the slash, basically. I'm all about Teh Gay, as are most of the people reading this, I imagine.
And I really don't care what other people think, ya know? I'm a slasher. I don't freak out when my ship is sunk, or when one of my OTP is killed. I live in my own little slashy fandom world, and I like it that way. It's nicer here. And we have better icons. So there.
Note: You know, I've written quite a lot of het, so this shouldn't be interpreted as a het vs. slash thing at all. It's about me boggling at someone throwing what they think is an insult at the whole slash genre -- when its OOCness is something I actually embrace. Go figure. :-P
ETA:
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Date: 2006-07-26 02:20 am (UTC)here, fuckin' here...
another reason why i monitor my nephew's 'gay movie' intake.
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Date: 2006-07-26 02:30 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-07-26 02:35 am (UTC)AND!!!
your icon is how i view Colin Creevey, most times, by the way... just so you know...
(... i think i'm in iLove ...)
icon: just in case you don't know his name it's Bjorn Andresen
Date: 2006-07-26 02:54 am (UTC)I spoke to my mom about this, who after crying her eyes out when I told her that I was gay 2 years ago has been a great support to me, specially since my dad is an asshole. Anyway, she told me that when she was young it was the same thing, except with "modern" women. Women who were of "doubtful moral character" were always dying in movies, because Hollywood and everyone else thought that the easiest way to manipulate audiences into sympathizing with the character or "forgiving" the character was if they were somehow punished for their crime. Death and/or tragedy would make the audience say: "Awwwwwwww-Too-Bad-Serves-You-Right-You-Slut-Poor-Dear" in the same breath.
It seems that many people can't accept the fact that homosexuals deserve to be happy too, to be heroic too. They deserve to have all kinds of portrayals. Goddamn it, I deserve better, and this is why I read slash. In slash a wonderful, heroic person can be gay, and there is so much kind understanding (even in the worst badfics) that the writer doesn't see why a good, brave person couldn't be gay. That kind of understanding makes me really happy and hopeful for the future. Sorry if I sound sappy or whatever, but there's so little understanding of that in "normal" literature and film that it's kind of precious to me.
Re: icon: just in case you don't know his name it's Bjorn Andresen
Date: 2006-07-26 03:07 am (UTC)oh, by the way, i knew the lad's name, i just always forget it... he didn't age very well, by the bye. poor bloke.
he's also slightly homophobic, but that may just be sour grapes dealing with what he had to deal with growing up the object of men's fascinations at such a early age. he talked about being taken to a gay bar when he was really young by the director of DEATH IN VENICE with a bunch of other cast and crew and how he felt like 'meat'. well, of course you did. pretty + in a club = looked at/desired. the bad thing was that the question had nothing to do with clubs or anything of the sort, rather, how he felt about gay people in general... and THAT was his response??? i admit, once i found that article, i switched my Colin from Bjorn to Jeremy Sumpter, who's had rather positive things to say about Teh Gay (no surprise).
anyway... i'm gonna friend you so i can fanby all over your journal instead of taking Emma's space.
;)
Re: icon: just in case you don't know his name it's Bjorn Andresen
Date: 2006-07-26 03:17 am (UTC)Yeah, he sounded like a douche in a couple of quotes I read. It was almost as if he blamed homosexuality for his lagging career.
I'll friend you back, thanks.
Re: icon: just in case you don't know his name it's Bjorn Andresen
Date: 2006-07-26 03:25 am (UTC)well... i guess it's a matter of opinion.
AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 2006-07-26 03:28 am (UTC)Re: AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 2006-07-26 03:39 am (UTC)inverted nipples!!!!!!
hhahahhaah
yeah, time does devour... but not all.
just look at Pee Wee Herman (http://community.livejournal.com/howtheylooknow/333468.html#cutid2).