OMG, Conan.
Jul. 26th, 2011 10:52 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Did anyone else SEE that? Conan O'Brien asking Tom Felton about Harry/Draco fanfic and then showing two Harry/Draco manips? OH HOLY HELL.
I don't know how I feel about my OTP being hung out there for all to see. :-/
If you really want to know...
I don't know how I feel about my OTP being hung out there for all to see. :-/
If you really want to know...
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Date: 2011-07-27 03:54 am (UTC)NOT COOL. D:
But... I knew EXACTLY which manips he was going to show him. Heh.
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Date: 2011-07-27 04:10 am (UTC)But still, did he have to show manips???
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Date: 2011-07-27 04:15 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-27 04:23 am (UTC)And the idea that THOSE are the representations of H/D shippers in the mainstream media just makes me want to hide in a hole in the ground.
Hey, mainstream media, get yer stinkin' filthypaws off my fanfic!
Date: 2011-08-11 03:12 am (UTC)And I too want to keep fandom for fen. My boss showed me a Time or Newsweek article about fanfic. She came away with "It's all porn." I didn't, but I didn't like the article much either.
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Date: 2011-07-27 01:33 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-07-27 04:11 am (UTC)It's interesting to think about how mainstream slash has become, though. I'm kind of reeling.
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Date: 2011-07-27 04:14 am (UTC)yeah, it's certainly been interesting to watch that.
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Date: 2011-07-27 04:43 am (UTC)I'm not sure either. I'm like, "Uh, underground no more..." and at the same time, "hell, yeah, we're here, deal."
IDEK.
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Date: 2011-07-27 04:08 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-07-27 12:52 pm (UTC)Actually, all the way back in 2004, the same thing happened to David Duchovny. He was on Jimmy Kimmel and promptly got some semi-explicit Mulder/Krycek manips thrown at him. He seemed more amused by it than anything else, but I still cringed when I first saw it. But that was years ago and I guess fandom is a lot more mainstream now...
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Date: 2011-07-27 01:36 pm (UTC)(sorry to spam your lj!)
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Date: 2011-07-27 04:30 am (UTC)Not sure about the OTP thing being out there for all to see either. Although, I suspect Tom knows H/D very well and may have laugh about it more than several times with Dan. Tom has been bombarded with it, and Dan is too geeky to not want to know about this. :)
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Date: 2011-07-27 04:38 am (UTC)The actors know about it and have known for a while, sure. I'm glad they're good sports about it, but still, I'm not comfortable with it being so out there. I'm imagining it coming up at work tomorrow, and not in a good way, you know?
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Date: 2011-07-27 04:44 am (UTC)Photo manips are, I confess, one of the areas of fandom I never feel comfortable with because the actors and actresses were so young at one point. The "classic" photo of H/D that Tom totally knows about I am all right with because it actually looks quite subtle and frankly, pretty (and I know exactly which two photos it came from), but that's more an exception than a rule.
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Date: 2011-07-27 12:03 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-07-27 04:47 am (UTC)Slashers have always been so careful about keeping what we do on the fringe to protect ourselves from all sorts of shit. Maybe the world has changed enough that we don't have to worry so much about TPTB coming down on us. But maybe it hasn't. :-P
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Date: 2011-07-27 05:08 am (UTC)I hate that slash is suddenly the titillacious flavour of the month for the mainstream folks who want to get a reaction.
Although I've clearly been around far too long when my first thought was, "did he get permission to repost?"
*face!palm*
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Date: 2011-07-27 05:51 am (UTC)Since Rowling knows about us and the actors also know, and can have a laugh about it rather than getting bent out of shape... then I guess that's all that matters. People who don't "get" fandom will find it odd and move along, and those of us who do get it can either cringe or laugh, too, I guess.
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Date: 2011-07-27 05:54 am (UTC)*hugs!*
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Date: 2011-07-27 06:13 am (UTC)Besides, hasn't Tom Felton known about H/D art for years? He mentioned in an interview once that his brother used to have a manip as screensaver on his phone just to embarrass Tom ...
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Date: 2011-07-27 06:18 am (UTC)He is very charming and pretty funny. I like that he was (mostly) a good sport about it. It was clear they discussed some of that before going on the air. Not sure if he knew the manips were going up or not but it seemed like he planned to talk about them.
Yeah...that didn't make me super uncomfortable. There was one thing squicked me WAY WAY WAY more. The guy who wanted to adopt him after having changed his name to Lucius... Yeah, please tell me that isn't the guy who goes to the HPEF cons and cosplays and has the lover who is Draco?
Not that people outside of fandom knows about that guy. But, if they did some digging, that would make fandom look way worse than a few photomanips.
That isn't to say that cosplay sex is that big of a deal. I think that squicking people is people being prudish. What I do think is a big deal is when that is taken to a level of legal name change and having it take over a person's "real life".
For me personally, photomanips tend to fall into the realm of RPS which always squicks the hell out of me when it gets within 10 feet of an actor. I feel that an actor, lending their image to a character, has to accept that their image might be used in fan stuff, like a description in fic or having a character look like them (to varying degrees) when being drawn/painted/etc.
As for TPTB, I really don't think they would want the publicity of court battles and all that if they were to take people to court, even if they had a huge problem with it. Also, I wonder about how they actually could.
As we speak, porn is being produced as "parody" with names like "This Ain't Tru Blood" that is fanfic-esque porn. So, if that is legal, where money is being made, I would wonder how much success they would have suing over fanfic. (Use of pictures and copyrighted images would likely be a whole different matter but that is besides the point)
If anyone wants to see the HUGE list of movies like that to see my point, go to any porn dvd site and look in the parody section. There are TONS. (Including a Star Trek Next Gen one. heheh)
Now, I should do work. :)
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Date: 2011-07-27 06:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-27 01:36 pm (UTC)I'm this odd mixture of mortified and amused.
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Date: 2011-07-27 10:27 pm (UTC)DNW
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Date: 2011-07-27 11:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-28 12:04 am (UTC)Only a matter of time the shlash is outed? Although.. yeh, of all the artwork, photomanipulation are the shiftiest, especially if the faces that are used are of underage actors, even the host might get into trouble for spreading dubious material featuring minors LOL^^;
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Date: 2011-07-28 09:25 am (UTC)And...he brought it up himself... I don't know what to think of it... :S
But still I must say, I'd rather have 'em leave us alone. What does it matter to anyone, what we wanna make of the movies and books? It's our imagination, our fantasy and I still feel like it's kind of a private thing... Even if sharing it with ppl all around the globe, it's still nothing I would wanna discuss with Tom or Dan or really anyone of the HP-Cast.
Hell, this is weird... makes me feel like a quirky freakish...whatever... O.o"
However, it won't stop. What was that urban dictionary rule?
Rule 34: If it exists, there is porn of it. No exceptions.
If one is a famous person, you can't avoid this. Gotta deal with the fame in many ways, I guess. ^^"
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Date: 2011-07-29 08:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-30 03:44 am (UTC)I kind of was like "Eeekkk!" during that part and yeah. Way to flash those pics like 3-4 times, Conan! Tom's been usually good about this topic, so yeah. Just curious what the audience was thinking. Ho hum.
Still quite content in this happy world of H/D. So whatevs. :P