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I'm re-reading HBP, and I'm just stunned by the amount of evidence in this book that Harry is a very close friend of Dorothy's.


1. During the entire book, girls are drooling after him in the corridors, flirting with him, standing under mistletoe when he walks by, trying to trick him into taking love potions, and so on. And Harry's response? Annoyance. I mean, come on! He's sixteen! Do you know any straight 16-year-old boys who wouldn't take advantage of the opportunity to get some in that situation? I mean, look at Ron -- he jumps at the chance to make out with Lavender, and he doesn't even like her.

2. He takes Luna Lovegood to Slughorn's party. Can anyone say "fag hag"?

3. He's completely obsessed with Draco Malfoy. For the whole book. Nuff said.

4. The girl he actually likes is a tomboy. Hell, she's almost a female version of him. And once he's gotten a snog or two, he loses interest pretty quickly. She doesn't lose any sleep over the break-up either, by the way. *coughs* beard *coughs*

5. He spends an enormous amount of time and energy trying to make Ron feel better about himself, even when he's being an utter prick. Maybe the crush he has on a certain red-head is a little misplaced...

6. He notices how handsome young Tom Riddle is. Repeatedly.

7. He's actually disappointed when Draco doesn't show up to play Quidditch, and his thoughts immediately turn away from Quidditch to wonder what Draco is doing. This is the same boy who lived for Quidditch just a few short months ago.

8. He keeps noticing what Draco looks like in amazing detail. Okay, okay... the Draco obsession is obvious enough, isn't it?


And these were added by [livejournal.com profile] marksykins:

9. Anyone who can blurt out the phrase "There's no need to call me sir, professor" without thinking is flirting at least a little. Also note that Snape is not once described as ugly in HBP. Sallow skin? Check. Greasy hair? Check. Hooked nose? You betcha! Ugly? Not anymore, apparently, though his mother is 'not pretty'.

10. Characters described as handsome by Harry:
- Firenze
- Tom Riddle, Sr. (who, er, disturbingly enough is also described as handsome by Dumbledore more than once)
- Tom Riddle, Jr.
- Madame Maxime

Characters described as pretty by Harry:
- Tom Riddle, Sr's girlfriend, Cecilia
- Goyle

11. He immediately notices Malfoy's clothes upon seeing him at the robe shop. What straight boy does this, honestly?

12. He mentions Draco's hair as blond four times (white-blond twice), and repeatedly mentions the huge blond Death Eater. Fleur's pale blond hair is mentioned several times, too. Red hair? Ginny's is mentioned four times, too, but Harry notices Arthur's, Ron's, and Percy's Weasley red heads, too. I think he just has a hair fetish.

13. People Harry describes as pale when they're not sick? Draco and Tom Riddle. :D Narcissa is described as pale, but only in Chapter 2, and everyone else is ill or has had a fright. Oh, and once for Snape, though it's right after The Event, so it could go either way. Draco has a couple instances where he's clearly ill, too, so he also could go both ways (*cough*).

14. His brain practically melts when he thinks he's killed Draco. (from [livejournal.com profile] unglue)

15. Veelas (or in this case Fleur) still don't affect him. (from [livejournal.com profile] oconel)

16. And he even follows Malfoy's movements to his bed on the Marauder's map. (from [livejournal.com profile] oconel) Emma: Hey, since when does he know where Malfoy's bed is, anyway?

17. He spends a third of the book angsting over having to choose between Ginny and Ron. (from [livejournal.com profile] _almagitana)

18. And of course, there was the love potion scene. He found that he was breathing very slowly and deeply and that the potion's fumes seemed to be filling him up like drink. A great contentment stole over him; he grinned across at Ron... (from [livejournal.com profile] kerryblaze)



HBP is proof that JKR loves H/D shippers and wants us to be happy.
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Date: 2005-08-03 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tastyeyeliner.livejournal.com
The beast in his chest is actually just a deep rooted fear of rejection by men. So he grabs up a girl who's most like a guy. I used to have a really girly friend who was a boy, and he would call himself 'the gay man's starter kit.'

Maybe that's just what Ginny really is...

Date: 2005-08-03 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
Or the beast is an attempt to deny his homosexuality. ;-)

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Date: 2005-08-03 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zahavah.livejournal.com
i'm glad someone else noticed how often it was remarked upon that tom riddle was handsome.

and, uh, the harry/draco is just.... more than i could have ever dreamed of.

Date: 2005-08-03 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
Isn't it though? *happy sigh*

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Date: 2005-08-03 01:41 am (UTC)
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Well, I was already convinced but you sold me yet again. Harry + Draco.

Date: 2005-08-03 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
HBP is proof that JKR loves us H/D shippers and wants us to be happy. ;-)

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Date: 2005-08-03 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sesptwd.livejournal.com
I totally noticed the obsession and the "Tom Riddle is very handsome" bit too.

Soo gay!

Date: 2005-08-03 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
Oh, yeah. But you know -- did we ever have any doubt?

Date: 2005-08-03 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] accio-draco.livejournal.com
I like the part where he's concentrating on Draco so completely that he doesn't notice Goyle reaching for a suitcase right next to him and he gets whapped in the head. That's a starin' boy, yo.

Date: 2005-08-03 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
LOL! And isn't there a touch of annoyed jealousy when Pansy is stroking Draco's hair?

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Date: 2005-08-03 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] souliesoul.livejournal.com
I was rereading last night and every time Tom was described as handsome it jarred me out of the story because I had a moment of 'it's Voldemort quit noticing his hotness, Harry'.
And Ginny's actions and the descriptions of her tally quite nicely with the object of Harry's obsession not just Harry himself. heh

Date: 2005-08-03 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
it's Voldemort quit noticing his hotness, Harry

The poor boy can't help it. Cause he's GAY. ;-)

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Date: 2005-08-03 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-ella-bane358.livejournal.com
He is SO completely gay. This list is heavenly because canon proves it! And you are not stretching even a little bit.

Date: 2005-08-03 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
And you are not stretching even a little bit.

And that's the scary thing. ;-)

Date: 2005-08-03 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] singlewoman.livejournal.com
I noticed the frequent references about how handsome Tom Riddle was too. And slughorn's party, when Draco crashes, Harry forgets all about Luna. Just like at the Tri-Wizard Ball, Harry and Ron go skulking in bushes. And you are so right about Harry being annoyed by all the female attention. As the mother of a 15 year old boy, trust me, any girl who would show that sort of interest in him, he would be on her like Won-Won to Lav-Lav! Wonder if the Mirror of Erised would show him with Draco?

Date: 2005-08-03 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
Yes, exactly. God, if boys had been all over me when I was that age? Hoo boy.

Date: 2005-08-03 02:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] conuly
Somebody I read described Ginny as a female Draco....

Date: 2005-08-03 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
Hmmmm. That's interesting.

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Date: 2005-08-03 02:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aidenfire
I've been trying to convince a friend that Harry's totally gay since right after OotP came out. After he finished reading HBP, he called me up and was like, "Yup."

Vindication, she is MIIIINE.

Date: 2005-08-03 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
Mwahahahaha! Perfect.

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^^

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Date: 2005-08-03 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dm999.livejournal.com
You are 100% right!!!!!!

Harry is gay, now we need to find proof(evidence?) of Draco.

Date: 2005-08-03 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
Ah, the next challenge. That one's a bit harder, though. <-- Pun. :-P

Date: 2005-08-03 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zhonnika.livejournal.com
*Cracks up laughing* Yes, yes.

Date: 2005-08-03 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
OMG. I don't think I've seen the art your icon is made from. Holy crap. :-P

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Date: 2005-08-03 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darksylvia.livejournal.com
Ha, or proof that Harry Potter is the biggest Mary-Sue evah.

But seriously, I think even people who don't ship H/D noticed this time.

Date: 2005-08-03 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
You mean cause he's channeling JKR? Who is heterosexual herself, i.e. likes men...

Same thing, right? ;-)

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Date: 2005-08-03 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marksykins.livejournal.com
Anyone who can blurt out the phrase on this icon without thinking is flirting at least a little. Also note that Snape is not once described as ugly in HBP. Sallow skin? Check. Greasy hair? Check. Hooked nose? You betcha! Ugly? Not anymore, apparently, though his mother is 'not pretty'.

*cracks up*

Characters described as handsome by Harry:
- Firenze
- Tom Riddle, Sr. (who, er, disturbingly enough is also described as handsome by Dumbledore more than once)
- Tom Riddle, Jr.
- Madame Maxime

Characters described as pretty by Harry:
- Tom Riddle, Sr's girlfriend, Celeste
- Goyle

*dies*

Other evidence:
- He immediately notices Malfoy's clothes upon seeing him at the robe shop. What straight boy does this, honestly?
- He mentions Draco's hair as blond four times (white-blond twice), and repeatedly mentions the huge blond Death Eater. Fleur's pale blond hair is mentioned several times, too. Red hair? Ginny's is mentioned four times, too, but Harry notices Arthur's, Ron's, and Percy's Weasley red heads, too. I think he just has a hair fetish.
- People Harry describes as pale when they're not sick? Draco and Tom Riddle. :D Narcissa is described as pale, but only in Chapter 2, and everyone else is ill or has had a fright. Oh, and once for Snape, though it's right after The Event, so it could go either way. Draco has a couple instances where he's clearly ill, too, so he also could go both ways (*cough*).

What I've concluded is Harry notices hair, eyes, complexions, and wardrobe an awful lot; he never thinks of Ginny as pretty, attractive, or good-looking (though other people say so frequently); and he sure notices Malfoy's hair, skin, and eyes more often than any other character that I've noticed. It's pale grey eyes this and sleek blond head that. Oh yeah. :D

Date: 2005-08-03 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
Oh, I am SO stealing these! ;-)

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Date: 2005-08-03 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] natoma.livejournal.com
1. During the entire book, girls are drooling after him in the corridors, flirting with him, standing under mistletoe when he walks by, trying to trick him into taking love potions, and so on. And Harry's response? Annoyance. I mean, come on! He's sixteen! Do you know any straight 16-year-old boys who wouldn't take advantage of the opportunity to get some in that situation? I mean, look at Ron -- he jumps at the chance to make out with Lavender, and he doesn't even like her.

My high school/college experience in a nutshell. LOL

Anyway, Yep. Harry's gay. Most definitely. :)

Didn't JKR say in an interview that she wouldn't be opposed to Harry being gay anyway?

Date: 2005-08-03 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
Didn't JKR say in an interview that she wouldn't be opposed to Harry being gay anyway?

Did she? Cause that would like, make my life. Really.

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Date: 2005-08-03 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oboros.livejournal.com
LOL YES to all your points! HBP felt so good to read.

Date: 2005-08-03 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
Oh, yes -- it's even better to re-read! :-D

Date: 2005-08-03 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unglue.livejournal.com
His brain practically melts when he thinks he's killed Draco. Also in OOTP he's continually noticing how hot Sirius is at fifteen.

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Date: 2005-08-03 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonfly-lily.livejournal.com
Oh God, you people make me giggle! Wouldn't you just *die* if she actually made them a couple in 7? I know it's too much to ask for, but really!

Date: 2005-08-03 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
I'd be completely shocked and just plain elated if she let Harry be gay. ;-)

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Date: 2005-08-03 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silver-osiris.livejournal.com
How much do I love this list?
Infinity plus one. So true, so true.
*adds to memories*

Date: 2005-08-03 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danxsunday.livejournal.com
Such a brilliant list. And Harry? As camp as a row of boy scout tents.

Date: 2005-08-03 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sciencegeek.livejournal.com
*snort*
It's been argued somewhere on LJ that Ginny is the female version of Draco, without the prejudice pureblood attitude.

Date: 2005-08-03 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dramaphile.livejournal.com
He really does like boyish girls, doesn't he? Both quidditch players, Ginny the massive tomboy. Poor, confused darling. *pats his head*

Date: 2005-08-04 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anno-domino.livejournal.com
I live for the Harry/Draco, believe me, but I do have to say: some straight men just like butch girls. Yes! Thank God! :) Okay, I'm done now.

(here via the snitch)

Date: 2005-08-03 03:40 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ladycat777.livejournal.com
Like the others -- Ginny reads male to me, and always has. Her casual way of dealing with conquests in book five isn't exclusively male or anything -- I've certainly known girls to be that calm about the whole thing -- but Ginny has just always seemed slightly masculine to me, even in ways Ron isn't. She takes no shit, she'll call Harry on his actions (sometimes), she's not into melodrama ...

Well, Draco would be into melodrama. But mostly to make a point. Otherwise ...

I wish she could get him be gay. She can't; she'd be villified if in book seven she sprang that on the world. But it wouldn't surprise me if, a few years after seven's printed and sold, she has an interview that talks about how she always wanted to ...

Date: 2005-08-03 03:41 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ladycat777.livejournal.com
er, second she = JKR. Must remember to reread after edits, to make sure important stuff didn't get deleted, too *facepalm*

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I can only imagine the awkward set discussions between Tom and Dan now. Dan reads the books, Tom doesn't. (Although evidently Tom's seen some of the art...)

And Rupert was worried about having to kiss a girl. Haha he's screwed. Dan's probably wondering if he's going to have to kiss a boy. (Which maybe Rupert wouldn't be so against. I'm just saying....)
From: [identity profile] alloveryou.livejournal.com
BWAH! after reading that comment, it reminded me of this tom/dan RPS (http://www.livejournal.com/community/tomdan_otp/19435.html) involving Tom's reactions after HBP. So great =D

Date: 2005-08-03 04:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nickeldeuce
6. He notices how handsome young Tom Riddle is. Repeatedly.

OMG I even pointed this out to my sister. We were also going to compile a list of why JKR ships H/D, but there's just so much there xDD
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